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Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

Since Eve onward, it’s all about blaming the b*tches for men’s failings.

Don’t want to have to think for yourself? Eve’s fault.

Can’t keep it in your pants? Sluts’ fault.

Can’t stop yourself from abusing women (& children)? The fault of meddling women who won’t just let you have your way.

We men fucking suck.

Sorry, trying my best here to make a dent, but JFC most are thick as two short planks.

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Casey Wike's avatar

"Since Eve onward, it’s all about blaming the b*tches for men’s failings. "

That's a funny way of saying that feminists attribute "the patriarchy" to the actions of men, while blaming men collectively for the actions of "the patriarchy".

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Dave's avatar

I didn’t vote for Trump or the idiot (and please why can’t people admit that she is an idiot?), but there are several things that he has done in his first month that I agree with.

There are three executive orders (EO’s) that Trump has signed that are worthy of support by everyone across the moderate political spectrum  

The first of these EO’s recognizes that open borders are politically unacceptable and that the age of mass migration is over. Importing millions of people who will work for next to nothing just to be here destroys the wages of working class Americans and drives up housing costs when we can't house our own citizens. People cannot overpopulate their home country and just expect to move to greener pastures. There are no more green pastures. They need to voluntarily reduce their own country's population to an environmentally sustainable level, stay home and work there to improve their living conditions. 

His second important EO addresses the insanity of gender identity which denies the reality of human sexuality and results in men invading women’s sports, restrooms, locker rooms and prisons. Women need and are entitled to privacy from men. Even more diabolical is the mutilation of innocent children (many who would grow up gay) in pursuit of the impossible because you can’t change your birth sex. 

Finally his EO that corrects the craziness of DEI which discriminates against whites, Asians and men in attempting to cure past discrimination against others is absolutely the correct approach. Who could believe that creating a new privileged class and a new discriminated against class would provide a solution to the problem? Not to mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional.

It would well serve both Democrats and independents to get behind these changes even as they choose to vigorously oppose other aspects of his agenda. 

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Casey Wike's avatar

"Over recent years, the Matrix-inspired metaphor of ‘red-pilling’ has escaped its original home in the manosphere, where it fuelled the rage of incels and MRAs by revealing the ‘reality’ that the world is run by feckless sluts who spend their time riding the alpha ‘cock-carousel,’ while exploiting beta ‘cuck’ males for financial and emotional support."

Is there a less charitable take that you can have on "people are saying that men have serious gender-specific problems that feminism is unable or unwilling to address"?

Your yellow journalism, with it's cartoonish stereotypes and straw man opponents, is an exact mirror image of the worst parts of the manosphere that you say you hate.

Articles like this create the red pill they lament.

Here is what actual men rights activists say they are about. Note the absolute absence of cock carousels and feckless sluts being discussed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7e_rs-rf9I

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Jane Clare Jones's avatar

1. I've done my homework, it's not just a caricature: https://janeclarejones.com/2021/08/15/spectacular-rage/

2. I don't have any problem with 'men have serious problems that feminism is unable to address.' I have a problem with the misogyny and the blaming feminism for men's problems. And pretending that isn't a lot of what happens in the manosphere is disingenous, see 1.

3. Women criticising sexism isn't the reason for men being sexist. Although it is certainly true that women criticising sexism makes sexist people angry.

4. Notable that you read an entire article full of sexist shit and have nothing whatsoever to say about it but 'you are being mean to men.' Which I thing tells us everything about your biases here.

5. Paul Elam's outfit? Are you fkin kidding me? https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/

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Suzette Cullen's avatar

Boys and men fearing matriarchy.

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Circe Black's avatar

That which is achieved by bloodless collaboration and cooperation, however rational: cowardice / feminine / illegitimate. That which is achieved by intimidation conquest or violence, however irrational: courage / masculine / legitimate. Violence is a self-justifying action.

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Steersman's avatar

"If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia 😉🙂

Rather amused to note another quip of hers from the American Conservative that speaks to Trump's opening salvo of EOs -- a salient one of which had been written by a woman, May Mailman:

AC: "... in which the lesbian scholar and provocateur identifies transgenderism as a mark of a civilization deep into decadence, nearing collapse ..."

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/paglia-transgender-civilizations-decline/

Not for nothing did Helens Dale and Joyce argue that transgenderism is a "civilization threatening/ending movement" in an interview over at Law & Liberty. Not sure if that is hyperbole or understatement though I and no few others tend to the latter.

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Simon Break's avatar

Great piece, level-headed and deeply depressing. As annoying as "woke" could be I always knew the inevitable antithesis would be so much stupider & far more dangerous.

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Dr Esmée Streachailt's avatar

Gimbutas FTW! Thing is men were indeed men in prehistory, just people did what they were good at, trained to, and was needed. Some men made rope. Some men tended the I'll or injured. The division of personalities in sexed roles had not taken hold.

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helena's avatar

I still don't understand what "sucidal empathy" is meant to mean. I've seen it just described as over-empathy to the point of disregarding other values- but then just say that? After reading this I feel like I'm going to insert "bitches be crazy" whenever I read that phrase.

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Jane Clare Jones's avatar

I think its generally being used to claim that open borders policies (if that is what anyone really supports anyway) are being motivated by excessive empathy for people who intend to do us harm (which seems to mean, specifically, Muslims). I need to look at the original argument a little more closely, but every time I try and watch Gad Saad talking I get annoyed when he slips from 'here is some reasonable sounding propposition about a general evolutionary effect' to 'that's why wokeists minds are full of parasites and this is science.'

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Circe Black's avatar

Suicidal empathy is how Ted Bundy got his victims. It’s women’s tendency to feel sorry for and be kind to people we should be afraid of and reject.

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