After the ‘muzzle velocity’ onslaught of the first four weeks of the Trump administration it might seem quaint to be talking about a ‘vibe shift.’ ‘Vibe’ is a rather diaphanous term, and trying to understand current events through vibes is perhaps like looking too-intently at the velvet wrapped around an iron fist.
"Since Eve onward, it’s all about blaming the b*tches for men’s failings. "
That's a funny way of saying that feminists attribute "the patriarchy" to the actions of men, while blaming men collectively for the actions of "the patriarchy".
"Over recent years, the Matrix-inspired metaphor of ‘red-pilling’ has escaped its original home in the manosphere, where it fuelled the rage of incels and MRAs by revealing the ‘reality’ that the world is run by feckless sluts who spend their time riding the alpha ‘cock-carousel,’ while exploiting beta ‘cuck’ males for financial and emotional support."
Is there a less charitable take that you can have on "people are saying that men have serious gender-specific problems that feminism is unable or unwilling to address"?
Your yellow journalism, with it's cartoonish stereotypes and straw man opponents, is an exact mirror image of the worst parts of the manosphere that you say you hate.
Articles like this create the red pill they lament.
Here is what actual men rights activists say they are about. Note the absolute absence of cock carousels and feckless sluts being discussed:
2. I don't have any problem with 'men have serious problems that feminism is unable to address.' I have a problem with the misogyny and the blaming feminism for men's problems. And pretending that isn't a lot of what happens in the manosphere is disingenous, see 1.
3. Women criticising sexism isn't the reason for men being sexist. Although it is certainly true that women criticising sexism makes sexist people angry.
4. Notable that you read an entire article full of sexist shit and have nothing whatsoever to say about it but 'you are being mean to men.' Which I thing tells us everything about your biases here.
"If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia 😉🙂
Rather amused to note another quip of hers from the American Conservative that speaks to Trump's opening salvo of EOs -- a salient one of which had been written by a woman, May Mailman:
AC: "... in which the lesbian scholar and provocateur identifies transgenderism as a mark of a civilization deep into decadence, nearing collapse ..."
Not for nothing did Helens Dale and Joyce argue that transgenderism is a "civilization threatening/ending movement" in an interview over at Law & Liberty. Not sure if that is hyperbole or understatement though I and no few others tend to the latter.
Great piece, level-headed and deeply depressing. As annoying as "woke" could be I always knew the inevitable antithesis would be so much stupider & far more dangerous.
Gimbutas FTW! Thing is men were indeed men in prehistory, just people did what they were good at, trained to, and was needed. Some men made rope. Some men tended the I'll or injured. The division of personalities in sexed roles had not taken hold.
I still don't understand what "sucidal empathy" is meant to mean. I've seen it just described as over-empathy to the point of disregarding other values- but then just say that? After reading this I feel like I'm going to insert "bitches be crazy" whenever I read that phrase.
I think its generally being used to claim that open borders policies (if that is what anyone really supports anyway) are being motivated by excessive empathy for people who intend to do us harm (which seems to mean, specifically, Muslims). I need to look at the original argument a little more closely, but every time I try and watch Gad Saad talking I get annoyed when he slips from 'here is some reasonable sounding propposition about a general evolutionary effect' to 'that's why wokeists minds are full of parasites and this is science.'
Since Eve onward, it’s all about blaming the b*tches for men’s failings.
Don’t want to have to think for yourself? Eve’s fault.
Can’t keep it in your pants? Sluts’ fault.
Can’t stop yourself from abusing women (& children)? The fault of meddling women who won’t just let you have your way.
We men fucking suck.
Sorry, trying my best here to make a dent, but JFC most are thick as two short planks.
"Since Eve onward, it’s all about blaming the b*tches for men’s failings. "
That's a funny way of saying that feminists attribute "the patriarchy" to the actions of men, while blaming men collectively for the actions of "the patriarchy".
"Over recent years, the Matrix-inspired metaphor of ‘red-pilling’ has escaped its original home in the manosphere, where it fuelled the rage of incels and MRAs by revealing the ‘reality’ that the world is run by feckless sluts who spend their time riding the alpha ‘cock-carousel,’ while exploiting beta ‘cuck’ males for financial and emotional support."
Is there a less charitable take that you can have on "people are saying that men have serious gender-specific problems that feminism is unable or unwilling to address"?
Your yellow journalism, with it's cartoonish stereotypes and straw man opponents, is an exact mirror image of the worst parts of the manosphere that you say you hate.
Articles like this create the red pill they lament.
Here is what actual men rights activists say they are about. Note the absolute absence of cock carousels and feckless sluts being discussed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7e_rs-rf9I
1. I've done my homework, it's not just a caricature: https://janeclarejones.com/2021/08/15/spectacular-rage/
2. I don't have any problem with 'men have serious problems that feminism is unable to address.' I have a problem with the misogyny and the blaming feminism for men's problems. And pretending that isn't a lot of what happens in the manosphere is disingenous, see 1.
3. Women criticising sexism isn't the reason for men being sexist. Although it is certainly true that women criticising sexism makes sexist people angry.
4. Notable that you read an entire article full of sexist shit and have nothing whatsoever to say about it but 'you are being mean to men.' Which I thing tells us everything about your biases here.
5. Paul Elam's outfit? Are you fkin kidding me? https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/
Boys and men fearing matriarchy.
"If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia 😉🙂
Rather amused to note another quip of hers from the American Conservative that speaks to Trump's opening salvo of EOs -- a salient one of which had been written by a woman, May Mailman:
AC: "... in which the lesbian scholar and provocateur identifies transgenderism as a mark of a civilization deep into decadence, nearing collapse ..."
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/paglia-transgender-civilizations-decline/
Not for nothing did Helens Dale and Joyce argue that transgenderism is a "civilization threatening/ending movement" in an interview over at Law & Liberty. Not sure if that is hyperbole or understatement though I and no few others tend to the latter.
Great piece, level-headed and deeply depressing. As annoying as "woke" could be I always knew the inevitable antithesis would be so much stupider & far more dangerous.
Gimbutas FTW! Thing is men were indeed men in prehistory, just people did what they were good at, trained to, and was needed. Some men made rope. Some men tended the I'll or injured. The division of personalities in sexed roles had not taken hold.
I still don't understand what "sucidal empathy" is meant to mean. I've seen it just described as over-empathy to the point of disregarding other values- but then just say that? After reading this I feel like I'm going to insert "bitches be crazy" whenever I read that phrase.
I think its generally being used to claim that open borders policies (if that is what anyone really supports anyway) are being motivated by excessive empathy for people who intend to do us harm (which seems to mean, specifically, Muslims). I need to look at the original argument a little more closely, but every time I try and watch Gad Saad talking I get annoyed when he slips from 'here is some reasonable sounding propposition about a general evolutionary effect' to 'that's why wokeists minds are full of parasites and this is science.'